both local body and national are going to play a crucial
part in this ongoing issue to see a change in our national
flag. From these following pages, questions will be asked
and the answers will be given (as well as politicians
can answer) by politicians, community leaders and even
royalty, about the issues surrounding the changing identity
of New Zealand as a whole.
It makes interesting reading some of these comments and
replies and we hope you gain part of the picture as well
as the hurdles we face and of those who place them in
front of us in the quest to establish a unique identity
for our country.
HB Today :Prime Minister Helen Clark said
it was an "absolute given" that appeals
to the privy council would one day be abolished,
in the same way it was inevitable New Zealand
would one day become a republic.
HB Today :Mayor wants a republic. Waitangi
Day was an appropriate time for New Zealand to consider
becoming a republic, Dunedin Mayor Sukhi Turner
said yesterday. Mrs Turner said she would willingly
attend todays Waitangi celebrations, but Waitangi
Day was also an appropriate time for New Zealand
to "Think about some nation building"
and advocate some radical changes- ditching the
monarchy and becoming a republic, adopting a
new flag and introducing an official New Zealand
Day public holiday in addition to Waitangi Day.
NZ Herald :Queen of New Zealand ERII. The Queen said
last night that New Zealand was evolving in it's wn way
as a county, but she look forward to continuing to serve
- "to the best of my ability in the years to come".
Speeking to an
audience of politicians and dignitaries at a state banquet
in parliament, the Queen said New Zealand was a "very
different country" from when she first visited in 1953.
"I have admired your
increasing energy and confidence. I know this process of
evolution will continue as you, the peopl of New Zealand,
map out your path for the future in your own time and in
your own way."
Royal - watchers said the
Queen was acknowledging the posibility that new Zealand
may further cut ties with Brittian.
She said it had been a "priveledge
and a pleasure to have served as Queen of new Zealand for
these fifty years... I look forward to continuing to serve
to the best of my ability in the years to come".
|LETTER TO AUCKLAND MAYOR
small congratulations letter and a request in the advancement
|LETTER BY RSA
letter below was sent to local body government and their
representatives in reply to the to the letter I sent out
which was to gain a response and Direction by those same
councils in relation to the question and debate of the
evolution of the National Flag of our great country New
|LETTER TO PRIME MINISTER, HELEN
letter was sent to Helen Clark as the PM before I recieved
George Hawkins reply stating that I should be directing
correspondence about the flag to the PM, as she is the
Minister for Arts and Culture and so she now has two letters
to reply to.
YET TO BE RECIEVED.
must say i personally like what i see and will seek
the views of my fellow councillors at an appropriate
committee meeting."..WYNNE RAYMOND , MAYOR .
18/7/2000 "Our Council recently considered your
proposal for a new flag for New Zealand .However,
I'm sorry to advise you that Council did not wish
to pursue the matter at this stage.
have obviously done a lot of work on the project.
Al lthe best with your endeavours."......JOANNE
BROWNIE , COMMITTEE SECRETARY . 7/8/2000
YET TO BE RECIEVED.
YET TO BE RECIEVED.
this stage the Ashburton District Council does not wish
to become involved in this issue.Should there be a wider
New Zealand interest shown in changing the flag we would
address the matter then"...........R M ANDERSON
, MAYOR . 19/7/2000
the whole the Council's Policy and Resoures Committee
were impressed with your ideas and have asked me to
commend you on your initiative. However, this Council
believes that the matter is essentially one to be
concidered by Central Government and the people of
I wish you all the very best in your indeavours and
thank you for sharing your ideas with us."....NOEL
POPE , MAYOR . 21/8/2000
am unable to extend my support to you ,I don't believe
we need a new flag for New Zealand and feel the present
flag we have represents New Zealand well".............DAVID
HAWKINS , MAYOR . 18/7/2000
congratulate you on you initiate and wish you well
in your endeavours.At this stage our Council work
programme is very intense with no opportunity to introduce
more city business for many months.
our files i would appreciate any feedback on the meeting
you had with the Prime Minister,Heleen Clark"...........MARK
BLUMSKY , MAYOR . 19/7/2000
commend you on your initiative and your commitment
to New Zealand's image.
consider that the most appropriate course of action
is to have Central Government take a lead and canvas
the opinion of the local authorities in New Zealand
and the general public.
would be pleased to maintain communication with you,but
would be anxious to learn of the Prime Minister's
recommendation in the first instance before involving
the full Council"........SIR BARRY CURTUS , MAYOR
on your initiative and the fine design.
wishing to be seen as discouraging,it is a matter
that properly should be dealt with by the Central
Government".....ALAN DICK , MAYOR . 18/7/2000
design has a number of symbolisms that will appeal
to those who seek to have a new and unique flag for
New Zealand. I note that you have gained a resolution
of support from your own council in Hastings. The
next meeting of the Central Hawke's Bay District Council
is not until 24 August, and it is not usual for Council
to officially support such national campaigns.I hope
that the enclosed letter commending your proposal
to the Prime Minister for consideration will be of
assistance to you." ...............HAMISH KYNOCH
, MAYOR . 21/7/2000
read letter to the Prime Minister , CLICK HERE
am grateful to you for your communicating with me in
this way ,on a topic of importance to us all"......JOHN
TERRIS , MAYOR . 24/7/2000
proposal was presented to the Coromandel / Colville
Community Board at its meeting on 10 August. Although
supporting the concept of a new national flag, and
congratulating you on your initiative, the board declined
to support the prosal as it believed it required extensive
public input and suggested a national competition
be held to attract further designs."
proposal was presented to the Thames Community Board
at it's meeting on the 21 August, at which time Members
declined to support the concept, believing this was
a national issue, rather that a matter for the Community
Board to Consider."............. BEV FLEMING
, SECRETARY . 18/8/2000
read your proposal with interest, thank you for sending
it to me, and i applaud your initiative. Should full
council decided to debate this issue, i will advise
you of the outcome." ......RUSS RIMMINGTON , MAYOR
we can't endeavour to get you the type of endorsement
you requested,as the Rodney District Council was suspended
earlier this year.
congratulations on a very effective and attractive
design"........................ PAUL GARBETT
, COUNCIL SECRETARY . 26/7/2000
had the opportunity to discuss this fact with our staff
and councillors at a workshop yesterday and while I
appreciate the fact that ,at some stage ,a new flag
may be looked at for New Zealand, there appears to be
no immediate enthusiam for a change. However,I have
decided,and it was suggested by more than one,that a
nation-wide competition to look at an alternative National
Flag would certainly create some interest" ....PAUL
MATHERSON JP , MAYOR .25/7/2000
I congratulate you for taking the initiative and creating
a relevant design, Iam afraid this is not an issue on
which the Otago Regional Council would take a position'
............LOUISE ROSSON , CHAIRPERSON . 26/7/2000
agree that it would be good for New Zealand to have
a flag that represents our national identity. I also
believe such an icon needs to have the support of the
majority of the people and there would need to be a
lot of public consultation on the choice of the design.........GARRY
MOORE , MAYOR . 26/7/2000
refer to your letter concerning the above ,matter
that was received and discussed at a meeting of the
Council held on the 26 july,2000 .Arising from these
discussions the Council resolve as follows:-"THAT
A LETTER BE SENT TO THE RIGHT HONOURABLE HELEN CLARK
,PRIME MINISTER ,SUGGESTING THAT IT IS NOW TIMELY
TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF INTRODUCING A NEW NATIONAL
FLAG FOR NEW ZEALAND"....... R TAYLOR , ADMINISTRATION
OFFICER . 4/8/2000
acknowledge receipt of you letter addressed to the
mayor regarding your proposal of a new design for
the New Zealand flag. This was discussed at a meeting
by our Councillors, but unfortunately there was little
enthusiasm to change our present ensign"
wish you well in your endeavours to bring about a
'new look' flag" .............CAROLINE FLAY ,
PERSONAL ASSISTANT . 4/8/2000
for your letter and interesting proposal for a new
New Zealand flag .
Council decided that they did not think that at this
stage ,that the New Zealand flag should be changed".......ROSEMARY
MORAN , COMMITTEE CLERK . 4/8/2000
resolved the following : "That the Clutha District
Council supports the status quo remaining for the New
Zealand flag." .....JUNO HAYES , MAYOR .4/7/2000
generally agreed that the design was an issue for
Central Government to decide. Howevere, they noted
the comments in your letter with interest.
Community Development Committee's meeting report was
adopted by the council.The Councilresolved to recieive
your letter and that you be advised that the councilwill
take no further action." .......C J WHITLOCK
, CEO . 26/9/2000
YET TO BE RECIEVED.
proposal was consided by Council at their meeting on
1 August 20000 who resolved: THAT THE WESTERN BAY OF
PLENTY CISTRICT COUNCIL DOES NOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED
NEW ZEALAND FLAG DESIGNED BY MR J P TROUP.".....MARTIN
COLE , EXECUTIVE OFFICER:COUNCIL SERVICES
considered your proposal at it's meeting on the 3
august 2000 and resolved:- "THAT THE NEW ZEALAND
FLAG INFORMATION PROVIDED BY MR J P TROUP BE RECEIVED
AND THAT COUNCIL RESPONDS THAT IT DOES NOT SUPPORT
we certainly respect the initiative you have shown
in coming forward with a proposed alternative flag
we believe this matter would need to be promoted by
wide spread national consultation, possibly a competition
inviting suggestions for a flag rather than simply
leaping to one answer."......R G DICKINSON ,
CHIEF EXECUTIVE . 9/8/2000
refer to your recent letter ,address to His Worship
the Mayor and Councillor's and i confirm that it was
considered by Council at it's August 2000 meeting. I
now wish to advice that at the meeting it was resolved
to receive your letter and associated information."....JOHN
MAGEE , COMMITTEE SECRETARY . 16/8/2000
Council determined that it did not support the proposal
you presented, and asked that i write and convey this
to you. Itrust this has been of assistance to you."
................. SIMON MURRAY , COMMUNITY LIASON OFFICER
Council considers a review of the country's national
flag is oppropiate and that your design should be considered
as a part of that review. The Council will forward a
copy of this letter to the Mayor of the Hastings District
Council advising him of the Council's view.".......DARRYL
GRIFFIN . 28/8/2000....To read letter CLICK HERE
letter was placed before Council at its meeting on
the 15 august, and a copy of the resolution in relation
to your suggestion is attached . These minutes are
a draft copy only ,and will be confirmed at our next
full Council meeting on the 26 september 2000
regret I am unable to help on this occasion, but would
like to wish you all the best with your project."
......TIM SHADBOLT , MAYOR . 30/8/2000
read minutes......CHICK HERE
referred your letter and the attachments to Council
for their consideration.Unfortunately it did not receive
the favourable endorsement that i expected and I enclose
a copy of the minutes for your information.
am sorry that my Council did not endorse your flag
but i do personally.".......... MARY OGG , MAYOR
. 21/9/2000 .....To read minutes CLICK HERE
i some sympathy with your views that our present flag
is outmoded, this is not a matter I have raised at
a full Council meeting.Rather, I sent a copy of your
letter to all of our councillors. I have not received
any response, largely I suspect because our Council
workload is very heary this term.
do not think there is any want of courage about this
issue , but it is just not a priority right now."
.........JILL WHITE , MAYOR . 26/9/2000
Council discussed various alternative flag designs,
including the silver fern as well as the FLAG NEW
ZEALAND. The Whakatane District Council Resolve to
receive the information and have made no further resolutions
in respect to the national flag.
again, thanks for your time and effort, it certainly
stimulated discussion."............... CORAL
HAIR , ADMINISTRATION OFFICER-POLICY . 21/8/2000
my council is supportive of the updating of the New
Zealand flag it does not think your design is the answer
and we will be asking the Minister of Internal Affairs
to investigate other options." ......WARWICK L
BENNETT , CEO . 15/8/2000